IMPORTANT STRATEGY CHANGE!! PLEASE READ!!!

[Kuracynn]

Hey guys and Gals.

There was a stealth Change (I think) to ZG with the most recent patch. The bloodlord fight has totally changed.

Its a lot more fun now, but very much more hard. We no longer have this fight in easy mode.

When you enter the area, the first thing you will notice is a large chunk of the wall of spears is gone. Specifically the ones that are (were) between the raid and the main tank.

While you are looking at that you will also notice that something else looks different. Thats right, there is now a RAMP leading up to where the raid normally stands.

As it turns out we had been exploiting this fight without realizing it. I had noticed that the bloodlord would turn from time to time and look at the raid, but I never really thought about why.

It turns out that one of his abilities is to charge a tightly clustered group of people and drop a fear bomb. The spears were in the way so he wouldn't charge. Now he has a nice hole in the fence and a ramp to run up. BE AFRAID SQUISHIES!!!

So...what do we do about it?

Most of the strat remains the same. But the "watching" has become even more important. It is CRITICAL that we are all on our toes with this. More than ever before. Danovan has been calling out people who were watched on vent, that will help so much more now.

The positioning for this fight will need to change significantly. I have drawn a poor image of what it will look like now....

You will notice that there are 4 people near the raptor. Those are off tanks and their healers. The lone dot at Mandokir is the main tank. Very important for the main tank to be facing the raid.

All other raiders will be in a large arc around the Bloodlord. It is VERY important to be as spread out as possible. We may even want to consider totally surrounding him if we cant get split up enough. This is the only way my guild was able to negate the fear bomb charges.

The strategy for the off-tanks remains untouched, but I would like to see some polish on it. For example, the same tank dying over and over. I think it has something to do with the warriors specs. If one has not speced into "Defiance" and the other has, it would be difficult to do a tank swap. Then the armor Debuff will destroy that warrior.

Other than the position change, he remains the same. Only more fun.

I would say easier than tiger or panther, but harder than spider. Good luck to you all, lets down him twice this week.

[Beautiqea]

you dont think that we could just do it the same way just using the other set of spears? Like the set between the white blob thingy and the red explodey picture? like keep tanking the raptor like we always have on the other side of the statue but tank the bloodlord to the south more, like o the left of the exit? i mean it is still a spear thing but i dont know if those spears work the same as the others did, or whatever. we just never tried it that way. we just kinda converted to a aq20 naxx fight kinda thing.

[Kuracynn]

beautiqea said:

you dont think that we could just do it the same way just using the other set of spears? Like the set between the white blob thingy and the red explodey picture? like keep tanking the raptor like we always have on the other side of the statue but tank the bloodlord to the south more, like o the left of the exit? i mean it is still a spear thing but i dont know if those spears work the same as the others did, or whatever. we just never tried it that way. we just kinda converted to a aq20 naxx fight kinda thing.

Maybe?

As I have read the reason for standing in the old place was to force the bloodlord to take a longer path and give people some breathing room.

In theory it may be possible, but I also think of "if its possible, why didn't people do it that way in the first place?"

I'm trying to think of what this would look like in my head. I'm seeing the raid clustered up tighter than ever. Possibly standing in that corner of the spears. There are also gaps on each side now

Knowing Blizzard, one of two things will happen when we try it that way.

1) Blizzard managed to fix it and standing up there is now a very bad idea.

2) They totally overlooked it and its possible you may have discovered the new exploit for this fight.

Worth a shot, but I also know Blizz was against it being fought this way, they just couldn't do anything about it due to "clever use of game mechanics" or some mess like that. They do love things to be "working as intended" or whatever.

[shodan]

I've been in other raid groups that try to use the smaller set of spears - things get very messy when Mando (you're allowed to call him that when you've spent entire days of your time in ZG) charges people behind the fence. He can hurt/fear a lot of people at once that way.

I say stick to the large spread out semi-circle method, as of everything else I've seen since the patch it actually works the best.

[cythenea]

The way that my guild has been doing Bloodlord is that we use is have everyone ontop of each other behind the smaller set of spears have the raptor offtanked and killed to start of with.

The main tank will be handling bloodlord as with the pre-patch change except behind the smaller set of spears. With this patch change though people do need to stop all actions during the watch phase.

So all in all, not much has changed except that you stop all actions when being watched and you're using the smaller set of spears. No biggie. Its all to do with the execution, having two good warriors and not being a 'tard.

[Kuracynn]

cythenea said:

The way that my guild has been doing Bloodlord is that we use is have everyone ontop of each other behind the smaller set of spears have the raptor offtanked and killed to start of with.

*cowers in fear*

Killing the raptor first makes me affraid of my repair bills

Sometimes I die 3 or 4 times during this fight. I always die when the raptor is killed first, then several times after that. I estimate a full repair for me is about 12g.


Trust me bro, we got the strat down. He is easy mode once again.

:-)